{"id":64255,"date":"2025-10-03T15:48:37","date_gmt":"2025-10-03T15:48:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kede.com.br\/news\/engineers-dignity-may-have-been-violated-in-toilet-incident-tribunal-hears\/"},"modified":"2025-10-03T15:48:38","modified_gmt":"2025-10-03T15:48:38","slug":"engineers-dignity-may-have-been-violated-in-toilet-incident-tribunal-hears","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kede.com.br\/news\/engineers-dignity-may-have-been-violated-in-toilet-incident-tribunal-hears\/","title":{"rendered":"Engineer&#8217;s dignity &#8216;may have been violated&#8217; in toilet incident, tribunal hears"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-3b6b161a-0 kSquvq\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-5340b511-1 ilsLtA\"><img sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/5f5a\/live\/e5f8a610-a06e-11f0-928c-71dbb8619e94.jpg.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Google A general view of the Leonardo offices in Edinburgh on a sunny day.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 bGQwLJ\"\/><span class=\"sc-5340b511-2 lha-dta\">Google<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-536eff7b-0 jFVvLh\">Alleged harassment and discrimination took place at Leonardo UK&#8217;s Edinburgh headquarters<\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-3b6b161a-0 jdlrvG\">\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">An engineer&#8217;s dignity would have been &#8220;violated&#8221; if she had to wash menstrual blood off her hands in a female bathroom while a transgender colleague was present, an employment tribunal has heard.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Maria Kelly is taking action against aerospace firm Leonardo UK alleging harassment and direct and indirect discrimination at their office in Edinburgh in March 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">The firm&#8217;s vice-president of people shared services, Andrew Letton, gave evidence to the hearing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">He said he was not aware of that specific incident, but agreed it would have been &#8220;distressing&#8221; for Ms Kelly if it occurred.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-3b6b161a-0 jdlrvG\">\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Ms Kelly, people and capability lead at the company, told the tribunal on Wednesday she suffered from heavy periods and considered female-only toilets a place of refuge.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">She said she had been <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/cdx2d97e7dno\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 jZoZnB\" rel=\"noopener\">walking out of the toilet in March 2023<\/a> when a transgender colleague had walked in, leaving her &#8220;taken aback&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-3b6b161a-0 jdlrvG\">\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Asked about the incident, Mr Letton said he was not aware of the situation and could not comment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Ms Kelly&#8217;s lawyer asked him whether he would accept it would be a violation of Ms Kelly&#8217;s dignity &#8220;if it had happened&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Mr Letton said it would.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">The tribunal also heard that Ms Kelly had a <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/c4gz9wegrnpo\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 jZoZnB\" rel=\"noopener\">choice of either using the toilets<\/a> nearest to her desk, walking through an atrium to toilets with more privacy or using the accessible toilet.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Mr Letton said he did not think this constituted a violation of her dignity because of the choice of facilities available.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Mr Letton did agree there were no &#8220;suitable&#8221; single occupancy toilets for Ms Kelly to use on the floor where she worked unless she used the accessible toilet, as other facilities were all shared.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-f98b1ad2-0 fsBZby\">&#8216;Nothing but sympathetic&#8217;<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-3b6b161a-0 jdlrvG\">\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">The tribunal heard the ladies&#8217; toilets were &#8220;rebadged&#8221; as a WC in January 2025 while no change was made to the men&#8217;s facilities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Mr Letton said this was because the men&#8217;s toilets &#8220;still had urinals&#8221; in them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">He said he first became aware of a transgender person using a female bathroom at the office around the time of Ms Kelly&#8217;s complaint.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Mr Letton said the company had been &#8220;nothing but sympathetic&#8221; towards Ms Kelly&#8217;s grievance and described her as a &#8220;valuable employee&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">The tribunal in Edinburgh continues and further dates for submissions from each party are expected to be agreed in the coming weeks.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/czrpx088r2eo?at_medium=RSS&#038;at_campaign=rss\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Google Alleged harassment and discrimination took place at Leonardo UK&#8217;s Edinburgh headquarters An engineer&#8217;s dignity would have been &#8220;violated&#8221; if she had to wash menstrual blood off her hands in a female bathroom while a transgender colleague was present, an employment tribunal has heard. 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